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Biblea and Ami’s Book Club–Join In!

francine rivers

The first book is Redeeming Love by Francine Rivers. Biblia and I are reading it now, but I can keep this bumped up for all who want to read it and discuss it. It is one of the best books I ever read. I have to thank Biblea for getting me into reading again. I feel like a part of me came home. We plan on reading all sorts of books and discussing them. I have always wanted to be in a book club. If you have too, join us! Just jump on the Comment Section whenever you want. I will keep putting this to the top as long as people are interested.


Our second book will be Wolf Hall. I picked it up on Amazon for 5 dollars. Get the book somewhere and start reading and you will be ready with Biblea and me to talk about it!


Biblea and I have chosen our 3rd book

A Lineage of Grace: Five Stories of Unlikely Women Who Changed Eternity

by Francine Rivers


I just bought it, so if you want to join us, start reading the books! All are welcome. Don’t be shy <3

319 thoughts on “Biblea and Ami’s Book Club–Join In!

  1. amiannamiann Post author

    I will start and say that this is one of the best books I have read in my entire life. It is life changing and I don’t say that lightly. I am on page 131.

    I think that this book touches one’s heart in a way that most things can’t. She goes right to that deep part of a person which is shut down, usually, and she tells it that it is alright to wake up and come alive.

    Truly a brilliant, brilliant writer. I wonder about her chart, B πŸ˜€

  2. amiannamiann Post author

    As I said in the other Comment Form, I would like to read El Farris two books and I bet we can get El to come up here and talk with us, too, which would be amazing B but you can reject any idea, as I can. If either person does not like a book, we will go to another. I think that should be our rule.

    Let me know if you don’t want to read the Farris books now and I will choose a short list for you to choose from, as you did for me. That was very nice to be able to pick!

    1. amiannBiblea

      Can you give me a short list of books, I promise we will read El Farris in future. I just don’t have El Farris in my local library, A. I am not willing to purchase any books since my book larder is spilling right now. I need to organise them fully before I buy any more, A. Give me a short list, if u like.

  3. amiannBiblea

    I will agree to read your “Wolf Hall”, A. Since I saw in in the library.

    For the rest, we can pick. If you like, I would love a bestseller, a classic book one from 1001 list and etc lol. I never keep to it If I’m too ambitious. I’d agree to Wolf Hall for the next read, ok, A?

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      I have wanted to read Wolf Hall for months. I will get it today. Ok, about El Farris. That will be at a later time! I used to be so happy because every week I would go to the library. I would come home with all sorts of things like Dennis Rodmans autobiography or anything that interested me. I would be so happy with my pile of books!

    2. amiannamiann Post author

      As far as our choices. I don’t want something really slow going. After I got out of graduate school, I said I would never read a slow going book again. I had to read so many duds. I would be up for a classic if it was kind of easy to get into and read, B.

        1. amiannamiann Post author

          I have read the grapes of wrath, 1984 and flowers for algernon. I don’t like to read plays that much. I have one fave play that I saw so many times, Long Days Journey into Night” Have you see that, B?

          1. amiannBiblea

            I’d like Bestsellers as well

            Do u like
            Me penumbras 24hr bookshop
            The fault in our stars

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            I don’t like the Ray Bradbury genre, so to speak. I don’t like adventure. I like the character development in books,B. I don’t know Dune

          3. amiannBiblea

            Why don’t u like Ray Bradbury? What is it abt him or his writing? I’ve not read so I don’t knw

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            My father is a huge adventure story reader like spies. Bradbury is science fiction but kind of technical, I think. I tried one and didn’t like it, so never read another. Books are so personal. Some authors styles really appeal to you. When I find an author I like, I read everything. I am like that with change. Once I find a nice hole, I stay in it :/

          5. amiannBiblea

            Same, A, Francine rivers seems like a good read.
            I did the same for coelho n then now I wanna Luke if I read any more. I used to love Enid blyton n the author of Charlie n the choc factory.

          6. amiannamiann Post author

            Mark of the Lion : A Voice in the Wind, An Echo in the Darkness, As Sure As the Dawn (Vol 1-3) Is this the one, B? It got 5 stars and it is 3 volumes so looks good.

  4. amiannBiblea

    But I don’t want you to purchase books for this book club, A. I believe I will want a book that is also found in your local library.

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      I bought Wolf Hall for 5 dollars. That is less than a small lunch down the street. That is a tip at restaurant for lunch. It is cool, B. I don’t do big expensive things :/

      1. amiannBiblea

        Whatever, A. You’ll be buying 50 books but Amazon is cheap and you don’t sound like you have a problem with book hoarding so go ahead and buy them, Ame.

          1. amiannBiblea

            You really hate the library don’t you? Maybe the transport to and for cost more than five bucks for you

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Ok for our 3rd one, for the future. Do you want to make a short list cuz it is your turn or do you want me to do it? I don’t care either way. I
            m easy :/

          3. amiannamiann Post author

            The Husband’s Secret Hardcover
            by Liane Moriarty

            The Golem and the Jinni: A Novel Hardcover
            by Helene Wecker

            A Lineage of Grace: Five Stories of Unlikely Women Who Changed Eternity by Francine Rivers

            Mark of the Lion : A Voice in the Wind, An Echo in the Darkness, As Sure As the Dawn (Vol 1-3) Paperback
            by Francine Rivers

            Joyland (Hard Case Crime)
            by Stephen King

            Orphan Train: A Novel Paperback – Deckle Edge
            by Christina Baker Kline

            The Anatomy of Motive : The FBI’s Legendary Mindhunter Explores the Key to Understanding and Catching Violent Criminals Mass Market Paperback
            by John E. Douglas

            Dark Dreams: A Legendary FBI Profiler Examines Homicide and the Criminal Mind Mass Market Paperback
            by Roy Hazelwood

            Whoever Fights Monsters: My Twenty Years Tracking Serial Killers for the FBI Mass Market Paperback
            by Robert K. Ressler

            Little Women (Bantam Classics) [Paperback]

            The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Paperback – August 29, 2013
            by Robert Louis Stevenson

            The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett and Sandra M. Gilbert

            Persuasion (Dover Thrift Editions) Paperback
            by Jane Austen

            Pride and Prejudice (Dover Thrift Editions) by Jane Austen

            Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte (

            The Classic Treasury of Aesop’s Fables by Don Daily

            Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen

            Dracula by Bram Stoker

            The Phantom of the Opera: The Original Novel Paperback – December 11, 2013
            by Gaston Leroux

            The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde

            White Fang [Paperback]
            Jack London

            I know this is a lot but they all looked kind of good so see what you like, B!

            I just remembered you said you don’t want dark ones. Just ignore the dark ones.

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            They just looked good. I am dying to read more Francine Rivers but I am not wedded to any of these. They just looked interesting.

          5. amiannBiblea

            I will pick from these, A. But I’m not really a fan of jane Austen for some reason
            What’s husbands secret and jinni about?
            U sure u don’t mind reading another Francine rivers?

          6. amiannamiann Post author

            Actually, my desire WOULD be to read another Francine Rivers. That is my top choice, B. I feel very changed, even by that one book. I really like books to lift me up and to contribute something valuable to my life rather than just prurient interest like some on my list like about affairs and serial killers. I just didn’t know what you would like so I put various ones on there. *I* would like to read another Francine Rivers, for sure. In fact, I would like to stick with her for awhile.

          7. amiannBiblea

            Ok A
            I’ll take the Francine rivers women that changed history. I actually saw that book so I know I can get it

            For my list I’ll give you 1001 list to choose from, A. It’s a huge list but if u agree, u can short list them then I’ll short list from your list , ok? U can pick any 1001 list from the internet

          8. amiannamiann Post author

            OK, B, I just saw this about the women who changed history but look at my last comment and see that Francine Rivers one. I will do whichever one you want but that one looks awesome, too. You can check them out and we will do whichever one you want.

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            Ok B dear. That is fine, so we have our 3rd book picked. I am so enthralled with this current book that it may even take the place of my all time fave book, The Stand. This book is pure magic. Love is magic, B. If anything can transform, it is love. I am at the part where she ran away but came back. It was interesting that Hosea was not a wimp. He was a very strong man and she respected him. I think she could not have started to love him, which it seems she is, if she did not respect him. This stuck out to me. What do you think, B?

          10. amiannBiblea

            I haven’t seen the character development if respect yet, A. But to my knowledge she came back cuz it was 1 mile back to food and shelter and 30 miles north to slavery. She will be stupid to go back to the Duchess, too.
            She is not one to know respect, A. To her all men are the same. She will respect him only if she finds her own bearing/respect which she has not.

          11. amiannamiann Post author

            I was thinking about this last night after I read your comment, B. In the OT, many things are shadows and foreshadowing of the NT. Gomer and Hosea are a foretelling of Jesus’ love for us. On the earth, one has to love and respect oneself BEFORE others will. Usually, one must command respect in order to get it, too. True human love is very scarce and very flawed.

            God’s love is opposite this. It is the love Micheal Hosea has for Angel. It is given freely and the person does not deserve it. The Bible says that God loved is first and not because we did anything to deserve it.

          12. amiannBiblea

            Ok A. Well I got a different message, although I liked yours.

            I feel Hosea is a messenger of God, sort of like an instrument and he has full faith. He loved Angel not because he did so but because God told him to and he obeyed. God wanted to love Angel, and He did so in the form of Muchael in this story. It’s a bit diff from the soulmates stories. This one has God as a main theme I think.

          13. amiannBiblea

            Have you read any of the books in your list, A?

            Btw why is your comment form arranged so weirdly
            Why isn’t there a reply button for every comment

          14. amiannamiann Post author

            Yes, I know about the reply button, B. I don’t know why the replies are like that. I answer on the Comment Form itself but then it is not in order lol I did not read any books on my list cuz I wanted us to read them together? But, really I don’t want to read for the sake of entertainment as much as enrichment and Francine Rivers does that.

    2. amiannamiann Post author

      You know who might like this book. my English professor. She is so cool. She is a Gemini like I am. We laugh all the time. I am gonna e mail her this and see if she wants to come on with us.

    3. amiannamiann Post author

      Speaking of expensive things. I buy nice spices like the Indonesian black pepper. I just bought some really cool olive oil made from kalmatra olives and things like that. I am kind of into gourmet cooking. I get a thrill from really hitting it right with food. Other than that, I don’t need expensive things, so the books are OK to buy.

  5. amiannalma

    Hi Ami, I can’t read every book, but with a heads-up I would like to read one of the E.L. Farris books (or some other contemporary fiction) with the group. I’m glad that I stumbled on this site.

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      Hi Alma dear and Welcome πŸ˜€
      Well, trust me on this one, Alma. I have not led you wrong so far. You will really like this book.I have cried through most of it. I know E.L. Farris, as I told you, and I bet she would come up and talk to us. I have to wait until Biblea wants to read her though. Biblea and I must agree on books for there to be a Go!

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      Yes, very much. Hosea married Gomer who was a prostitute. She cheated on him time and time again but he took her back. I remember one description on her. She was so dirty and filthy but Gomer took her back and loved her. It is a story of God’s love for us, B.

    2. amiannamiann Post author

      B, Can I ask you an astrological question. I don’t know if you deal with Nessus. Do you? Lets say a guy has his Pluto in exact trine to a female’s Moon. Also, his whole stellium of Sun, venus, Merc and nessus is an exact square to her venus. What would you say they both feel? Thank you, B, if you can help.

          1. amiannBiblea

            It’s ok, A
            Do you like wolves?

            Also regarding Nessus I really need to get a feel of that aspect to be able to answer. I frankly haven’t a clue

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Nessus is the asteroid of pure abuse, B. If a person’s Nessus conjuncts another person’s Sun, the Nessus person will have a strong, strong urge to abuse the Sun person. This can be in any relationship at all. It is just the nature of Nessus.

          3. amiannBiblea

            I don’t like to deal with Nessus now, A. I might delve into Proserpine but no bad asteroids. What does red riding hood represent then, A?

        1. amiannamiann Post author

          Did you put the 1001 list on here, B? I didn’t see it. I will get the next Francine Rivers one. Wolf Hall is on the way, so we are good so far. If you give me the 1001 list, I will take a look but I have a question for you. How about we keep on with Francine Rivers until we get tired of her or want to move on?

          1. amiannamiann Post author

            Sure, B. Thanks. We have the next two picked, so that is good. How about we go through some more of Francine Rivers before we move on? It is your call. I am easy πŸ˜€

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            I bookmarked the list and it will be a work in progress to pick some.I went through the list up to the last one but am not done yet but these look good

            The Virgin Suicides
            by Jeffrey Eugenides

            Never Let Me Go
            by Kazuo Ishiguro
            The Murder of Roger Ackroyd (Hercule Poirot #4)
            by Agatha Christie

            The End of the Affair
            by Graham Greene

            The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum
            by Heinrich BΓΆll, Leila Vennewitz

            The Red and the Black
            by Stendhal, Roger Gard

            Willard and His Bowling Trophies
            by Richard Brautigan

            Tipping the Velvet
            by Sarah Waters

            Aesop’s Fables
            by Aesop

            Cirque Du Freak: The Vampire’s Assistant, Vol. 2 (Cirque Du Freak: The Manga #2)9 we would do volume 1, first)

            The Vampire’s Assistant (The Saga of Darren Shan #2)
            by Darren Shan

            Tunnels of Blood (The Saga of Darren Shan #3)
            by Darren Shan

            I remembered that you don’t want dark, B. Just forget these, then.

            The Waves
            by Virginia Woolf

            Still Life with Bread Crumbs: A Novel Hardcover – Deckle Edge
            by Anna Quindlen (I saw this on Amazon.)

            The Elephant Tree
            by R.D. Ronald

            Veronika Decides to Die
            Rate this book
            1 of 5 stars2 of 5 stars3 of 5 stars4 of 5 stars5 of 5 stars
            Veronika Decides to Die
            by Paulo Coelho

            A Prayer for Owen Meany
            by John Irving

            To the Lighthouse
            by Virginia Woolf

            American Psycho
            by Bret Easton Ellis

            Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
            by Hunter S. Thompson, Ralph Steadman (This is one of my all time fave authors since I was a teen)

            One True Thing: A Novel Paperback9 saw this on Amazon)
            by Anna Quindlen ( I may just get this one anyway even if you are not interested)

          3. amiannBiblea

            A, Veronika decides to die is one of the best books I’ve ever read. It touches the soul. I’ve read that already so I’m not going to choose that.

            I don’t mind owen meany’s prayer or one true thing, A. Maybe can keep that on hold and let me think for a bit?

            I’m also thinking of a book that can help practically, like a iphone app development book, A. What d’you think? I think it can help you put your asteroids to iphones apps as well.

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            I don’t think I want anything technical right now, B. My website switching over and all the glitches made me just want to not stretch myself with technology but I am getting a tablet soon so maybe then would be up for something . Do you have a tablet or know about them?

          5. amiannBiblea

            I’ve read 80% of Paulo Coelho and that is my favorite book of his. I think he wrote breathtakingly good with that one, A. It’s like you followed Veronika upon death and being brought to life in an irresistable dramatic realism. It’s slightly better than Redeemly Love, the former is high intense drama, the latter is agape love with promise of peace.

          6. amiannamiann Post author

            I will get that book if it is your fave, B. I bought the Anna Quindlan one which was the last one on the list. We can do it or not, whatever you want, but I wanted to read it, anyway.

          7. amiannBiblea

            why are u so interested in women and their mums, A?

            Well get that book if you want to, A. It seems we have very different tastes in books. I mean like most books you listed arent going to be on my to-read list :/

            Well are u sure those vampire books are on the 1001 lists?

          8. amiannamiann Post author

            Good, good, good B. Thanks. You can be so sweet! I bought that book already and so that will be our 4th. We are doing pretty well with a list of four, I think. Don’t you?

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            Yep, the vampire books are on the list, B. They are a series. How are our tastes different, B? Can you put it into words? I will check out your list. I am not gonna delete it. It will be good to keep for future reference.

          10. amiannamiann Post author

            Let’s forget the Goodreads and just do it on here. So, we have 4 in our list, right now. That is very good. The last one is the Anna Quinlan one, right. So, are we up to snuff on these 4? If so, we can pick more, if you want. Did you like any on my list?

          11. amiannamiann Post author

            So far we have our present one, Wolf Hall, The Francine Rivers one on the Biblical woman and the Anna Quinlan one. Right? Do you agree with this list, so far, B?

          12. amiannamiann Post author

            It had almost 5 stars. look it up on Amazon. We can forget it, though. We both have to like them, B. If one person is not excited, it is not good.

  6. amiannBiblea

    Here’s a few books I wanna read

    Train man
    100 strokes of the brush before bed
    Great Gatsby
    Art of Motorcycle maintenance
    The prophet
    Mr penumbras 24 hr bookstore

    Any suggestions or comments on these?
    Btw I’m on pg 238

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      I used to love the Prophet when I was young. That sounds good. Lolitia sounds good. I did not like the Art of Motorcycle maintenance, The Great Gatsby or Siddarta. Lolita sounds good. I will check out the others and get back to you, B.

    2. amiannamiann Post author

      100 Strokes of the Brush Before Bed Paperback
      by Melissa P.

      That looks good, B.

      Train Man does not look too good to me, B.

      Mr. Penumbra’s 24-Hour Bookstore: A Novel Paperback
      by Robin Sloan

      This looks good, so any of those I just selected would be fine, B.

      1. amiannBiblea

        Thats cool A
        Well I’ll let you know. Have you finished constructing your list A?
        Cuz I’m having doubts abt Owen meany it’s a real thick book
        If u have more I’d pick from them A
        I can read anna quin but I’m not a big fan if mum daughter lit

          1. amiannamiann Post author

            Aesops fables sounds good to both of us B, so do you want to put that at number 4? I will check out Cloud Atlas and Illusions and get back to you.

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Cloud Atlas does not sound that good to me, B. How about maybe later. I want to be super excited about the books and want you to be, too

          3. amiannBiblea

            Shall we pick the first 25?
            Actually most years 21-25 was the most I could read in a year. Sad right?

          4. amiannBiblea

            Ok I hope I can get the same Arsops fables as yours
            I think there are many versions A

            It’s good to read books A
            But then you must have moderation in everything
            And don’t loose sight of reality
            Spirituality is 100% when you’re dead n gone
            Why not enjoy practical earth now while you’re here

          5. amiannamiann Post author

            Aww, so sweet and true, B, just like you. Yes, you are right about Aesops fables and the editions! If we have different editions, it won’t work. Want to forget it πŸ˜›

          6. amiannBiblea

            Yeah but can u give more options in your list cuz I won’t read anything dark or satanic at all
            I have nothing more to choose from
            I don’t like Woolf Austen bronte and these kind of writingsl

          7. amiannamiann Post author

            Are you wanting all my choices to be off your 1001 list or can they be choices from Amazon? Also, the fact that we have 3 is pretty good, B. I mean that will take us a few weeks or so, so we did well.

          8. amiannBiblea

            In the meantime can u share with me some bks u read last year, A? U can put them in good reads as read or put them here

            I’m interested in way u read last year if u don’t mind sharing

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            Last year?

            Some Trollope

            Some Evan Hunter

            Not too much, B. I got out of reading once I started Astrology, so was really excited to get back with you. You seem to read as fast as I do.

          10. amiannBiblea

            your comment form confuses me. Can you revert it to the reply tab after every comment?
            btw what is jerky boys, a comic?

          11. amiannamiann Post author

            I comment on the Comment Form, B. It is easier than going to the article. Can I talk to you about something that is really bothering me? The Jerky boys? I want to link you a clip. I bet you would like them.

          1. amiannbiblea

            the 1001 list is pretty big, and it is found in amazon too. could you pick from there, cuz u shortlisted only a few and most are dark books..

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Ok I have the list out again and will see what I think we might both like.

            Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
            by Hunter S. Thompson,

            Written on the Body
            by Jeanette Winterson

            The Bonfire of the Vanities
            by Tom Wolfe

            The Stone Diaries
            by Carol Shields

            The End of the Affair
            by Graham Green

            The Talented Mr. Ripley
            by Patricia Highsmith

            Miss Pettigrew Lives For A Day
            by Winifred Watson

          3. amiannbiblea

            are you interested in these books from the 1001 list?

            the handmaid’s tale
            the help
            cloud atlas
            love in the time of cholera
            war and peace
            on beauty
            the stranger
            master and margarita
            inifinite jest
            brothers karamanov
            brief wonderous life of oscar wao
            delta of venus
            red and black (this looks int, in your list also)
            the secret history

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            The Red and the Black (Penguin Classics)

            The Secret History

            Yes, I guess we have different tastes but we can find ones we both like ^^

          5. amiannbiblea

            ok i’ll keep them in mind, A. I mean i just saw 1001 list doesnt have much beyond the very deep and difficult/ aka boring :/

            BTW, the yellow wallpaper is only like less than 10 pgs and it is very etching/ unforgettable.

          6. amiannamiann Post author

            I really think we need to move beyond this list, B. You don’t want dark. I don’t like “masculine books” By that, I mean science fiction other than a soft science fiction like Crighton. I don’t like adventure and I don’t like technical books. You don’t like girly romance like Austen. You don’t like dark like vampires. You don’t like mystery. You don’t like female writers, in terms of the feminist genre, like Virginia Woolf. So, we need to meet in the middle which we CAN. It won’t be that hard. We already have 3 that we both like but I think we need to move beyond this single list imo.

          7. amiannbiblea

            you didnt answ my comments below A :/

            yellow wallpaper is about a mentally ill woman who sees figures on her wallpaper. it was written beautifully, A

          8. amiannamiann Post author

            I never heard of it B. It sounds lovely. Do you want that to be our 4th book? We are choosing our 4th one right now, if you lost count :/

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            I did pick 7 from your list, though, B. Did you see them? Did you not like them? In my opinion, we should forget the list and just look for single books and present them to each other.

          10. amiannBiblea

            I would like melancholy death of oyster boy to be are fourth book, if that’s what you mean
            It’s bad of u to ignore my comments down below :/
            I’ve read yellow wallpaper already so I’ll pass

          11. amiannamiann Post author

            The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy & Other Stories Hardcover
            by Tim Burton

            This is fine, B! I will get it today. Ok, so we have 4 . That is cool!

          12. amiannBiblea

            I thought you’d like love in the time of cholera, A
            It’s a highly rated book

            I like your suggestion of one single book
            U can try first, A
            I had a look at amazon this afternoon and they did have some good books!
            Btw what do u think of paradise lost?

            I thought your idea of honoring Christ sounds good I don’t mind reading christian fiction while learning more abt the bible. But I hv low tolerance for boring books :/

          13. amiannamiann Post author

            I KNOW. I hate boring books. Both of us have to be excited by the book. I don’t care how long it takes to find them. We will. We can do the El Farris ones at any time, too. Just keep that in mind. The love in the time of cholera looked OK. I will tell you honestly. I am not crazy about “true love” stories. I think they are fake and they make a person yearn for what can’t be. That is why I did not really choose that one

          14. amiannBiblea

            I don’t like
            Movie books, A. I kind if have a phobia to them
            I’ve watched Ripley and I don’t like fear n loathing
            It sounds better on the big screen

          15. amiannBiblea

            I was thinking of this book “Paradise Lost”, A what do you think? It can be are 4th book. It has biblical themes

            If not I’ll choose Lolita

            No hurry

          16. amiannBiblea

            Don’t buy the books first A. You must be patient… What if you or I don’t read till the fourth book

          17. amiannamiann Post author

            I bought the Francine Rivers one–The Lineage of Grace. I did not get the others yet. I will check out Paradise Lost and Lolita and get back to you!

          18. amiannamiann Post author

            Ok I will do Paradise Lost. It is quite a daunting book but I will. We need to be sure to get a good edition and the same one because people say the editions vary and some are not too good.

          19. amiannBiblea

            Oic, A. Didn’t know that
            Ok don’t buy the books first ok
            I’m having trouble with reedeemly love it’s getting boring at the centre where the kids are. I’m @260, and I’m struggling to read :/

          20. amiannamiann Post author

            Yes, the kids are boring. I agree. I don’t know my page number but I could see how that whole theme would just keep getting worse :/

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            What doe ms pettigrew entail? I keep forgetting to check :/

            I don’t think I want paradise lost anymore after reading reviews A
            Maybe we can put it to later.
            Can I change it to Freakinomics?

            A year of living biblically?

            I’m having a hard time choosing. You’ll prolly read 3 books before I complete this one, A.

            Out of interest how many books did u read in 2013? Could u share them with me?

          22. amiannamiann Post author

            Good about Paradise Lost. It seemed like a drag :/

            I did not read for a long time, so prolly did not read many in 2013. I will look up Freakinomics. I still like Redeeming Love.

          23. amiannamiann Post author

            Freakonomics does not really turn me on. I kind of know what you like enough to pick some different books for us. Have to fear. Deputy Dawg is on the job.

          24. amiannamiann Post author

            I don’t like A Year of Living Biblically. For me, I want to learn things beyond what I could learn on my own. That is what interests me about reading. I like an author with really good insight into human nature in a way that I could never do.

          25. amiannamiann Post author

            Hopeless Paperback
            by Colleen Hoover

            The Secret Keeper: A Novel Paperback
            by Kate Morton

            Sycamore Row Hardcover
            by John Grisham

            Drowning Ruth: A Novel (Oprah’s Book Club) Paperback – Print
            by Christina Schwarz
            I bet you like this one :/

            Middlesex: A Novel (Oprah’s Book Club) Paperback
            by Jeffrey Eugenides

            Oprahs Book club is a good place to look. She kind of discovered Wally Lamb and so she has really good taste in books imo

          26. amiannBiblea

            You don’t know what I like, A. I don’t like the title drowning Ruth

            Anything with water puts me off, A.

            I like catchy titles that just shine and say “read me!”
            I try to avoid women books unless they’re light and witty.
            I saw this book in the library about this pretty sis and the smart sis. I think it’s called the pretty one and the smart one. That’s my kinda book, A. Nothing about lifetime dramas kinda books.

            Drowning Ruth sounds awful to read tbh. I mean it’s a gd bk but someone wrote the whole story out n then I don’t like that it’s a female story of tears complications death and bondage. I don’t know how to explain it A

          27. amiannBiblea

            I don’t like anything about gay transgender or middle sex as well, A. Nor virgin suicide kinda books. Sorry I was busy today, I’m free now and I’ll give u a list soon. Just for interest sake, A. You don’t have to pick from there. I’m not a fast reader so it’ll prolly take me or us time to actually read those books :/

          28. amiannamiann Post author

            Lets do this, B dear. You give me lists of 5-10 books. I will pick one. If I can’t, I will ask for another list. Redeeming Love got a little better. I don’t want to say where I am in case you are not there. It is better though. The kid’s theme ended and that was good that it was not prolonged. You were right about that lol

          29. amiannBiblea


            The book thief
            Mr Penumbra’s 24 hr bookstore
            Fyodor Dotevsky
            the help
            handmaids tale
            tree grows in brooklyn
            i never promised you a rose garden
            the good earth
            velveteen rabbit
            perks of being a wallflower
            watership down

            I’ll look thru your list now. I need to key them into goodreads.

          30. amiannamiann Post author

            Man, B
            My all time fave book as a child was a Tree Grows in Brooklyn. I adore that character. I think her name was Francine, if I remember correctly. I have read some of these like The Good Earth, Velveteen rabbit, which is one of my favorites etoo. I will look later, B dear.

    3. amiannamiann Post author

      The thing about the Prophet is that it is kind of like the Bible. You don’t just read/read it. You kind of study it. We could do that at the same time as our novels, if you want. We could do the same chapter and talk about it. I would like to do that. It would be cool, B.

        1. amiannamiann Post author

          Slim but super esoteric. It is not just junk esoteric. It is really good stuff but deep, philosophy and no slow going and one must think about each page or really each sentence, B, imo

  7. amiannBiblea

    From your list, I’d like Arsops fables as well

    Have you read Melancholy death of oyster boy? Or phantom tollbooth?

    I don’t want anything dark or twisted, A so I have to say no to any vampirical or dark books inclusive of anything warped,

        1. amiannamiann Post author

          Cray Cray :/

          So you! I am gonna see what page I am on in the book. I am making a jakes juice. I got my 4 aloe leaves, so God Forbid, I keep my hair nice :/

          1. amiannamiann Post author

            I am on page 303. What about you, B? If I had my druthers. After Wolf Hall, I would do a bunch of Francine Rivers. It really lifts me up.

          2. amiannBiblea

            284, A
            I got a few qns to ask you

            Who is Joseph Rothschild?
            Why’d you think Angels father slept with her then shot himself?
            What was he tormented by? Do you think he loved Angels mum?

          3. amiannamiann Post author

            Hi B
            Before we talk about that, I wanted to talk about Mawagon(sp) I think he was a form of Satan. I think the Par a dice was a form of Hell and the fact that it burned down in flames was a symbol. What do you think? I wonder about the 2 girls who got killed in the fire. This is a wild, wild guess. It may show that good people like Lucky go to hell. Maybe, innocent people like the Chinese girl, go to hell but this is kind of stretch. I do think that Satan and the fire may have been a symbol though. Also, the Madame moved on and Satan is til in this world and will go on forever thus. He is not stopped by tragedy. He causes tragedy and moves on to cause more.

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            I am on 307 or so

            I really need to think about these questions. I don’t want to talk off the top of my head. I think that Duke was a figure of Satan though. Micheal is a figure of Jesus, of course and of God.

          5. amiannamiann Post author

            To me, Angel’s father was totally selfish in the manner of a Mal Narc or a sociopath. He loved Angel’s mother for how she made HIM feel, not what she needed or who she was. This is a very common kind of love. Astrolology wise, it sounds like a Nessus/Deja relationship. They are the heights of passion, like more than any other aspect even Pluto ones. When they end, the wreckage is mind boogling. That happened here.

            Rothschild is Jewish, which is interesting. This is a total guess and a stretch. He may have represented the Old testament. However, I think more of the case that he was a solid friend and represented the wonderful friendships in the Bible like David and Jonathan. Maybe, he just represented the value of friendship and loyalty, given freely and with devotion.

          6. amiannamiann Post author

            Just throwing out some ideas for us. Angel’s father may have been a form of Judas. He would not accept repentance and he killed himself when he saw what he did to Jesus. Angel was an innocent and was betrayed by the father as Jesus was an innocent and betrayed by Judas ( and the world)

            The father may have represented this fallen world in which there is no hope. The father was hopeless and, as such, killed himself. This world is hopeless. too.

            The father defiled angel as Judas and the world defiled Jesus. Angel will come forth OK and so Angel represents hope, too. Those are just some ideas to run by you. They may not be right at all. Just putting them out there for your consideration, B.

          7. amiannBiblea

            Why didn’t you answ my qns :/

            Well tbh I don’t think Francine Rivers is a very good writer like someone who will convey symbols and meaning. She is a literal writer. I think the author just wanted to get rid of Lucky and Mai Ling to aid in the story development. They are sort of like useless characters.
            I don’t see it burning down as being a hell but it shows that evil places burn down and are vanquished. Nago wan is not satan but a useless Minion of him

            Muchael is not Jesys but a man of faith

          8. amiannamiann Post author

            Well, the book is getting a bit predictable but I feel Rivers is very good conveying human emotion and I appreciate that. I think one can guess about meanings and symbols and may be wrong. Rivers has workbooks for some of her books and those would tell us, if you want to get them. I do thing there are figures of Satan in there such as Magawan and Duke, though. They could be figures of demons, too. They are figures of the dark side, at any rate, I think.

            I think Micheal is a form of God and Angel is a form of man, though. I feel pretty certain of this from Hosea and Gomer. Also, Hosea is God and Gomer is Israel. The OT stories may have many layered meanings, too.

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            I did not get Wolf Hall in the mail yet. I hope it did not get lost in the mail. I will check it out today. So, we are deciding on our 4th Book now, right?

          10. amiannBiblea

            I don’t want to read too deep into this, A. I don’t know who Joseph is in the story
            I don’t remember reading about him

            Anyway the dad was wrecked by guilt I felt he did love the mum as well, A. If he did not he wouldn’t kill himself

            Do u really think Francine Rivers is a mystery writer? I think she was just trying to write the story of Angel
            The main focus is her
            There aren’t any more to it
            If there were I didn’t pick up on it A
            Cool that u picked up so much on it
            But you shouldn’t get so lost in things here
            Francine is not unravelling a biblical mysteryou shd look for Dan brown for that

          11. amiannamiann Post author

            Who is Dan Brown, B? If I had to hone it down to a simple symbol. I would say Hosea was God/Jesus and Angel was mankind.

          12. amiannBiblea

            I was just at the library juz now trying to pick up wolf hall but it’s not there

            Incidentally I picked up a book called Kate’s style by Caroline. It’s gorgeous I’m glad I spent 14min of my life reading that

          13. amiannBiblea

            Yes her dress style, A
            I loved that book

            I’m sure the princess has got many fashion stylists A and tips for dress but her dress style is sensitive and respectful
            Something I love abt her dressing

          14. amiannamiann Post author

            Good insight, B. She is not flashy at all. This was really interesting to me. Did you see her official portrait. She looks older. It fascinated me that a woman would look worse in a portrait but is showed the gravity with which she took her position. She is a Cappy venus, I think and that may be part of it. What do you think of the portriat.

          15. amiannamiann Post author

            Did you like Diana’s style, B? What about Jackie O? Did you like her style? I have picture books on these woman. I am fascinated by them. I have read all the biographies of them.

          16. amiannBiblea

            Ok A
            You’re right about Angel being mankind
            But let’s keep her to human form for now ok?
            Do you not believe Michael can be human too? Must he be God? To me Michael is just a man with faith. A simple man with faith that moves mountains

          17. amiannamiann Post author

            This is what I think, B. The characters can be symbols of several things. Hence, Micheal is a man with simple faith. His name is after the book of Hosea. I think it is a book or the character, anyway. So, that tells us he was a man and he had a wife who was a prostitute. However, Hosea is also a picture of God with faithless Isreal and also God with mankind. So, I think Micheal Hosea is a picture of all this, too. The bottom line is that God loves man even if man is filthy and degenerate like the symbol of a prostitute. That is the picture of it imo

          18. amiannBiblea

            I have not seen the portrait.. not sure what portrait you speak of.

            Well, I dont like diana or jackie o style

            I like vanessa hudgens style, sometimes carla bruni.

            do u know how i can save my login info? it always resets and this irritates me.

          19. amiannamiann Post author

            I don’t know those people. I will look them up. I think you have to register for my Forum. I am not sure because I am on this side but try that. Google Kates official portrait and you will see it. If not, I will link it. It is so unusual for a woman to have a portrait where she looks worse. I would like your opinion on it, B.

          20. amiannamiann Post author

            Aww I see. I have no desire to see Egypt. I have been to Israel, twice and that is my fave place. I have always wanted to see France but with the Muslim population getting so dominant, it would ruin it. I have always wanted to see the English castles. The one historical period I love is Henry the 8th. Other than that, I am not that interested in history. B, if you can go OBE, you can visit anyplace. We could try to do it together. You have to really work at it. It is a real skill like playing tennis :/

          21. amiannamiann Post author

            I saw Kate in movement after the birth of her son. I think her smile makes her beautiful. She does not have a classic beauty in terms of Princess Grace. However, she has a movement to her which is very pleasing imo. Do you know that she has Chiron conj the ASC, I think and she was bullied.

          22. amiannamiann Post author

            That is a terrible pic of her, B. Can you imagine how bad it would be to be a public figure with people clamoring for your bad pics. That would kill a Libra ASC πŸ˜€

          23. amiannBiblea

            ok show me the pizzaz style, please.

            and let me know which countries u wanna visit. or u wanna stay home n read books?

          24. amiannamiann Post author

            Umm, The only country I have a desire to visit again would be Israel. Other than that, I will stay home and read books :/ You know what is cool about Israel. It feels like home. When you land, they say “Welcome home”. I was crying all the time because I felt God’s presence there. The first time I went, I was in college. I did not believe in Jesus. I went with my family and grandmother. I was crying during that whole trip, too. God’s spirit is there, B. You and I should go together :/

          25. amiannamiann Post author

            When Diana went to the White House and danced with John Travolta, I liked that dress. I will get some pics if you want but I like classic with an exotic twist. kate is too classic for me.

          26. amiannBiblea

            hee hee hee. tell me how you will look like so i can spot you at the airport. I mean I expect to not be surprised.

            I’ve never thought of going to Israel, A. Are there any touristy attractions there? Do not tell me you are going on a pilgrimage

          27. amiannamiann Post author

            LOL Pilgrimage

            Well, Israel has a spirit unlike any place in the world, B. You would feel it. There are amazing things to see. She is a tiny country the size of New Jersey. In a few hours, you can cover the whole country. It has very old sites if you like archeology, which I don’t. You can see Biblical places like the Valley of Meggido in which the final battle of the Tribulation will take place. You can see all sorts of amazing things in terms of culture, if you like that.

            It is interesting that Israel got the black Ethiopian Jews and so one can see the Black Jews, too, which is fascinating. There are Chinese Jews and Jews from all races. I have to try to avoid saying, ‘You don’t look Jewish”

            I like to wander around cities and see the people and the little shops and places that people go, not the major sites. It was pure desert before the Jews got it after WW2 and now it feeds the Middle East and provides as many flowers as Holland.

          28. amiannBiblea

            I like these dresses, A


            I dont like that diana dress; she looks like death


            vanessa hudgens dresses effortlessly, like she loves life, A.

          29. amiannamiann Post author

            YES, Vanessa has a great style. I like that but I am not crazy about the others. They are kind of grandma dresses, to me :/

          30. amiannamiann Post author

            You are right about the figures, B! However, I am not crazy about the style of dress. It is simple which I like but I like some more of an interesting twist added.

          31. amiannBiblea

            I’m not int in obe A sorry
            I won’t mess with these stuff
            It’s best u find someone else to obe with A
            I want a real human experience n not a ghostly one

          32. amiannBiblea

            I don’t like that dress it’s too old styled for me

            Btw A, try forums there are many ppl doing the same obe stuff u are
            If u really wanna be gd at it they’ll teach u
            But just be careful
            Don’t go where things have become irreversible :/

          33. amiannamiann Post author

            Yes, that e bay dress is so-so. I don’t need Forums, B. I do it on my own but it would be fun to do it with a cool person like you :/

          34. amiannBiblea

            No, find someone else, please. If like to live in the real world. It would make me miserable if I were to live in the Neptunian world. I am moving away from astrology after about 15 years. It didn’t improve my life much, A. I prefer to live in the real world than a spiritual one. Best you find someone with similar interest to you. I won’t ever do OBe I’m sorry
            Our ideals clash greatly
            I’m no longer into astrology as much as before, A
            I found myself I no longer need that as my guide

          35. amiannBiblea

            Life is about living in the real world
            Not hiding in the darkness of astrology
            It won’t make you a living it just prepares you to be a spiritual person or go back to the spirit world

            Nothing wrong with that but I no longer like that
            It’s a matter of willpower and knowing what you want

            I’ve always been one person I don’t play act to different people
            Thus I can be more focused in life
            I don’t want to waste my energies on useless things

            It depends on what you like and what you look up to
            Who your role model is
            Then live your life accordingly
            Nobody holds you back
            You’re very stubborn u are the only person that can help yourself :/

            I think to be successful one must be smart in the sense of knowing what to give up and what not to what to invest in and what not to
            If u fail in that then your path is swerved
            It depends on what makes u happy ok

          36. amiannamiann Post author

            Aww a lot of wisdom, B. Thank you. I have clear, personal goals, to me. I want to be authentic and have an authentic voice that is true to myself. I want to be able to stand up for what I think is right. I want to be true to myself in a word. I want to be a light that leads people to Jesus for my spiritual goals. For my more specific personal goals, I want to sing and play the guitar well enough to be a professional.

          37. amiannamiann Post author

            Who are your role models, B? What are your goals, in a specific sense, if you care to say. You have been more general.

          38. amiannBiblea

            We are very different, A
            I’m not going to focus alot on spirituality anymore
            I want succes in the material world, A

            Ask what a normal human being wants
            That’s what I want as well
            I’m conventional

          39. amiannamiann Post author

            Anyway, B. I am gonna get back to my book and look forward to Wolf Hall coming. My life has gotten much richer now that I am reading. We still have to pick our 4th Book. Right? I am not sure where we left off but we will do it!

          40. amiannBiblea

            Scrabble? I’d see you’re the type to go to Israel just to play scrabble

            If you go to Egypt with me I can wrap you in gauze and put u Ina coffin A you’d love that I think
            It’s an experience you won’t forget

  8. amiannbiblea

    I was at a bookstore just now trying to find the other francine rivers. then i saw a book, called bible something, but it was a christian fiction. it was set in israel and had a girl on the cover. i would like to read that book, if u could find that title for me. it’s a new arrival type of book.

    i also saw that the old version, bantam books has a different storyline for reddemly love. what is your publisher? mine is the multnomah publishers.

    i at 303, where are u at?

    also, i thought u had deleted this post for good, and our book club has disbanded. you throw such surprises, good or bad, a.

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      Our book club is still on! I love it, B! How can I find that book from just that small amount of info, B? I am at 313, I think. I have about 2 chapters left, I think. You try to find out the name of that book, B. You would be better able than I. You are a librarian, for goodness sakes :/

      1. amiannBiblea

        I’m at 321, now. I saw your analogy around these pages. God loves man even though they are not worthy. And they keep leaving Him…

        Well I’ll search it but two eyes are better than one :/ Won’t you help search? Well it has isreal on it, I don’t really like isreal, its your kinda book thats why i asked if u knew, a.

          1. amiannamiann Post author

            Thank you, B. I could not begin to search for a book with those few words. Well, I do feel quite changed. I am breaking down some of my defenses. I was just like my mother in being SOOOO hard on myself. I will give you an example. I have a beautiful garden but I would go out and see that I had not weeded and I had not started seeds and I had not picked off dead things I needed to and I would feel like such a failure. I did this in all parts of my life. I have made a success of this website but my house is a mess. I look at my house and feel like a failure. I look at my closet and feel like a failure. I look at my personality and feel like a failure.

            Also, Seeing Angel’s shame helped me see my own. That is just one thing and there are many more that I will write about later, too.

          2. amiannBiblea

            That’s beautiful, A. I am glad the story could inspire you so much. It’s not too late to live the life you wish you led, A.

          3. amiannBiblea

            What canned fruit do you like?

            I like sweet peaches, canned green grapes and mandarins. I wanna see how our taste differs, A

            Well I haven’t been connected to the Tudors although I must admit some fascination for Anne Boelyn

            Well could it be you were from that period?

            U can do that search for the fiction book, btw I wanted to see how good you were with google
            I can’t find it yet maybe u can.

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            B, I don’t see how we can find a book if we just have the words Israel and the Bible. I would help if I could. Yes, Anne Boelyn is totally fascinating. She is at the center of this period, for me. As far as canned fruit, I don’t eat it, so can’t really say. That was a cute question though :/

          1. amiannBiblea

            well A, its always good to read a genre that you’d never otherwise read.

            In school we dissected macbeth, and other books like the outsiders. to be honest I really loved them but I would never have picked them up on my own. Thats how I see it, A. If left to my devices I’ll read my kinda books still but those other books left a great impact on me.

            I am thinking redeemly love is not your kind of book. I am glad you chose to read this chicklity fiction, a.

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Yes, about studying a hard book like Macbeth. If we were to do it, we would prolly need study notes. I bet we could do something like this but we would have to put forth more effort. What do you mean Redeeming love is not my kind of book? Do you call it chick fiction?

          3. amiannamiann Post author

            The Screwtape Letters look really good, B. We will read it if/when you want!

            I am looking at the list now. I will put up what looks good to me.

            The Case for Christ
            by Lee Strobel

            Anne of Green Gables (Anne of Green Gables #1)

            Surprised by Joy
            by C.S. Lewis

            Till We Have Faces
            by C.S. Lewis

            Desiring God: Meditations of a Christian Hedonist
            by John Piper

            The Problem of Pain
            by C.S. Lewis

            The Practice of the Presence of God
            by Brother Lawrence

            Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God
            by Francis Chan, Danae Yankoski

            The Robe
            Rate this book
            1 of 5 stars2 of 5 stars3 of 5 stars4 of 5 stars5 of 5 stars
            The Robe
            by Lloyd C. Douglas

            Don’t Waste Your Life
            by John Piper

            The Jesus I Never Knew
            by Philip Yancey

            The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out
            by Brennan Manning

            What’s So Amazing About Grace? Study Guide
            by Philip Yancey

            Jesus Freaks: DC Talk and The Voice of the Martyrs – Stories of Those Who Stood for Jesus, the Ultimate Jesus Freaks

            The Count of Monte Cristo (Oxford World’s Classics)
            by Alexandre Dumas

            Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy
            by Eric Metaxas

            The Red Tent
            by Anita Diamant

            Captivating: Unveiling the Mystery of a Woman’s Soul
            by John Eldredge

            You know, I like everything on here except if it is LDS/Mormon. What looks good to you? I just got to the end of page 2 and I am gonna have 100 :/

          4. amiannBiblea

            by the way, the script in your page says cloudflare, it is not working :/

            I have not finished but I will in a while.

          5. amiannamiann Post author

            Israel will take me a while to answer. B dear. Wolf Hall is about the only period in history in which I have an interest enough to study and read–Henry the 8th and the wives. I have read most everything on them.

          6. amiannBiblea

            Which actress would you get to play Angel?
            The lady on the cover is not pretty enough :/
            Would you get someone like Nicole Kidman?
            I see a porcelain figure maybe Nicole Kidman or the other female that played pearl harbr. I might even put avril lavigne

          7. amiannamiann Post author

            My cover has the lady’s face cut off but I would not do Nicole Kidman at all. There is one girl I saw in her life. She looked exactly like an angel. She was that totally gorgeous. She was a med student at Duke which is amazing. She had won a state beauty contest.

            One day, I saw her in the grocery story. She was so gorgeous that even in the grocery store, she stuck out as an angel.

            To me, I would pick a Victoria’s Secret Model. There is one I am thinking of but I don’t know there names. Angel was totally gorgeous even in a frumpy dress. That is very, very unusual.

      1. amiannBiblea

        I’m showing to you first, A cuz I’m not sure I wanna buy it yet. It can be possible for future reading, though. It’ll prolly cost 6x a paperbacks cost.

        Btw this new format is easier to use for mobile devices but the catch is that you cannot see an overview of everything and then you need to scroll up blindly

          1. amiannamiann Post author

            B dear
            If you would accept a gift, I would be the one who would be honored. It would be my pleasure, much more than yours. Allow me to, B dear. It would be my Valentines Day present to you. I owe you a present anyway :/

          2. amiannBiblea

            Lol A, you are so polite. You don’t have to send, A. Well tbh that isn’t my superduperabsolutelyfave book, plus I’ve not read 1/600 of the bible properly, as well.. I just wanted you to see it, like a comic bible version. I’m not very much a fan of this drawings, they come across very dark to me, like Sandman. I like clean, children-style drawings, A. I had a full coloured children’s bible but I think someone stole it. I would really like that one. But I would only know it when I see it.

          1. amiannBiblea

            I replied this already but I think it did not post.
            Well it’s nicer and neater but on my mobile device I have to scroll a long time as I cannot contract or expand the page to aid my viewership. Overall it’s nice. It has a wordpress format.

          2. amiannBiblea

            it would be nice to have a “NEW” or colour indication of a new post, as well. I mean it’s going to be all text over here

          3. amiannamiann Post author

            The web designer wrote this to me when I sent him your comments, B

            The forum comment from your friend sadly can’t be fixed at this time. Your forum doesn’t have a responsive theme at this time. (It however will be the end of march and will be Installed with your maintanence contract)

      2. amiannBiblea

        Yeah the VS models sound like a good idea, A. Yes the cover with half a face has an ugly girl, A
        Post the pics if u like. But Angel has to be special and not just an empty porcelain casing
        She has to have expressive eyes or some emotion

        1. amiannBiblea

          I was thinking Miranda Kerr, or Namie Amuro, tang Wei, Candice swanpoel, jesdica alba,

          Btw immdone reading!
          You can be assured christian lit have good endings . God is good

          U can ask me your qn if u like

          1. amiannamiann Post author

            You are right about good endings, B! Well, this was my question or point for discussion. Angel really changed inside like a great deal. That gave me hope. To me, you could really see Angel’s shame when she was in the church and didn’t think she belonged among “good people”. I can relate to that shame even though I did have her specifics, of course. You really take on what was done to you in terms of owning it and it being part of you, rather than something outside you. I could relate to that. I could relate to her shame and to her not wanting to let anyone close so they would not see you and hence it would be uncovered.

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            I am still thinking of a way to explain what Israel means to me but I don’t have the words, B, so will wait until I do.

      1. amiannBiblea

        Interesting, A. I saw it. It isn’t what I’d normally read, but I’d check it out in the lib and let you know if it’s my cup of latte.

  9. amiannamiann Post author

    Wow I usually comment on the Comment Form. We have a lot of comments, B :/
    Anyway, I wanted to talk about the book a bit. It struck me that there were Satanic/demonic characters such as Mogawan, Duke and others. Then, there were savior kind of characters like Rothschild. You asked me about him. He may have been a guardian angel kind of symbol. Also, that banker that took angel out of that whore house after Duke had forced her back.

    These people may just be people who listen to God and prolly are. It shows how God can lead you. This gave me peace and a sense I can trust God more.

    Many of these people throughout the book were led in supernatural ways by God, starting with Michael and his feeling that Angel would be his wife.

    It was cool how they had children too. Her name of Sarah was related to Sarah in the Bible who did not trust God to wait for children. She took matters into her own hands and told her husband to have a child with the Egyptian maid. They had the son Ishamael.

    That is the origin of the Arab people and all the things we deal with today, B.

    After this, God gave Sarah the son he had promised which was Isaac, who is the father of the Jews. These two sons of Abraham are at the root of what you see today.

    The Arabs got land and oil but God said the PROMISE( Jesus, the Law etc) would come through the Jews.

    The Arabs made up the Koran to make another version of the story in which Ishmael was the son of promise, not Isaac. Hence, that is Mid east History 101 in a thumbnail :/

  10. amiannBiblea

    I’m started on Wolf Hall
    I’m not quite sure ill like it. Has yours arrived? You will prolly complete it before me again.
    You could add that to your 2014 list on Goodreads!!

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      Anyway, B, I appreciate the kind comments about my appearance but you know me, the heart is where it is really at.

      Anyhoo, B, lets get back to our books. I hope Wolf Hall comes today. Do you want to try to pick the 4th one?

      1. amiannBiblea

        You are someone afraid of life, A
        You need to get out more to see how people struggle so hard to live
        You are way in your comfort zone, friend
        I don’t want a life like yours
        My desires in life are totally opposite to yours, A
        It’s hard to remain friends
        Maybe only in spirit

        1. amiannBiblea

          You are a gemini trying to hard to be a Scorpio
          You should delve into more areas than just website astrology

          Get out meet people and see how people go to many ways to just make a few dollars
          You will find it exciting because it will take the focus off you
          You will see how people see you as a tool or cash cow
          It’s fun in the real world A

          Don’t trap yourself like a schizo in a mental ward
          Your gonna waste your life friend

          1. amiannBiblea

            Lana Del Ret would be perfect for this role of Sarah Hosea
            She has the porcelain look, and she can look innocent and like a slut at the same time
            She also looks fragile as a baby’s breath flower but tough as steel
            She is perfect for this role

            You asked what I did? I went out to meet people, A
            It’s no longer school days
            In the real world, ppl are interested in money and not you or your feelings
            It’s no longer about self esteem or how people see you
            It’s fun to play mental gymn with marketers, A ,

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Do you want to pick our 4th Book, B? If you really don’t want to finish Wolf Hall, we don’t have to. I was thinking of that Christian writer and his name escapes me now, the one who wrote the Screwtape letters. Must be the Oldtimers :/

          3. amiannBiblea

            Give me a list then, A
            I mean it can include anything like those we agreed upon earlier or new books
            It’s good to read as well

            Clive s Lewis wrote screwtape

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            Right CS Lewis

            OK–How about my son’s book on Heaven. He says it is amazing. Do you want to stick with Wolf Hall a bit more? I gave you several lists. Why don’t you go back and look.

          5. amiannBiblea

            I don’t wanna look
            It takes too much time scrolling
            Besides I don’t think we should choose bk four so early
            Why the hurry
            If u want then oyster boy
            My friend liked this book

          6. amiannBiblea

            by the way in addition to wolf hall, i have the terry pratchet discworld book. ive always wanted to read that, just for info.

          7. amiannamiann Post author

            I did from Amazon. I have to contact them today but I am going out to eat a non existent lunch with my non existent son. Then, we are going to a non existent store to buy non existent produce for our non existent salads.

          8. amiannamiann Post author

            My psychic feeling is that I am going to get Wolf Hall today. Do you want to stick with it. I think you should make the effort :/

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            I am gonna get a tablet for the few cases when I am away from the computer. I do have to go to my niece’s wedding. They will have to kick in the roof and take me out with a bull dozer :/

          10. amiannamiann Post author

            I have to read your comments on Redeeming love. Something just hit me about why she had a red dress in the cover drawing. She was washed in the blood of Jesus.

          11. amiannamiann Post author

            They show up as Wolf Hall’s questions. I will get Wolf Hall in a few days. I started reading Ripple. She is an amazing author. I am hooked. It is cool that I know her. I have an autographed copy. They are thinking of making a movie of it. I led El to Jesus. In the second book and others, she writes about it, I think. I have the second book here, autographed, too.
            If you want me to see the questions on Redeeming love, it may be best to put them here as I don’t seem to have access to the goodreads info. It is cool to put them here and maybe easier.

          1. amiannBiblea

            No A that’s my created question on reedeming love. I created a few other questions on there
            You can answer them

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Lets just get back to the books. I will finish Ripple in a day or two and do Wolf Hall. If you want to talk about Redeeming Love, we can. It is a shame to lose the nice book club we have. You wanted to read books so don’t sabotage it :/

        1. amiannBiblea

          Ok she has an angelic look but her personality doesn’t fit
          She is loud bold daring and very manly
          Angel is classy refined quiet and demure
          Do you know this pecheresse she looks like Angel she is perfect

  11. amiannamiann Post author

    Now that we had our lover’s spat, let’s get back to the Books. How far are you in Wolf Hall. Don’t tell me anything about the story. I have wanted to read this for months!

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