I am known for Asteroid picks. Some people get angry and defensive. Others want to learn how on the earth I picked their Asteroid out of thin air. I will give a trade secret 😀
This topic hit me this morning because I was thinking of someone with a lot of pride. Lucifer is spiritual pride. There are many forms of pride. The Asteroids are very specific. I can pick Lucifer in people. This person may ask for advice, but will argue with you when you give it.
Lucifer is a kind of fake piety. The person will usually present a problem where she looks like the victim. However, in actuality, she is victimizing others. If you dare to show her her face, she will get enraged. Sparks will fly. If I see all of the above, I will make an Asteroid pick of Lucifer. I have, always, been right.
Let’s talk about Lucifer’s story. One must go back to the original stories to understand any Asteroid. The problem is that the original story may be very complicated. The main character may do a number of diverse things like die, be reborn, marry, kill his children, kill his wife and turn from a mortal into a god. This is why Asteroids are hard. The Astrologer must hone down one theme. That one theme must be practical enough to use in charts. In my opinion, if Asteroids are so abstruse that no one can apply them, what is the point. I differ with many Astrologers on this. My code is practical, practical, practical.
Back to Lucifer. Lucifer’s story is simple. It is not many layered. These simple Asteroids are much easier to use.Lucifer would not bend his knee to God. Lucifer wanted to be God. That is the Lucifer story in a nutshell. To fill in the details, Lucifer had lots of gifts. He was very, very beautiful. He was very talented. It was thought that Lucifer was created with musical pipes as part of his body. He was the most magnificent creature on the earth. The story tells us that Lucifer was lifted up with pride because of his beauty. Lucifer was second only to God in his magnificence. However, second was not first. Lucifer wanted to be first. Lucifer led a rebellion of angels. They were cast out of Heaven by God.Lucifer is responsible for corrupting Adam, which led to the fall of man and the curse on the earth.
That is the story of Lucifer. Now, we need to take out the nuggets and make it practical. the person with a strong Lucifer will not take advice. They will present you with a sob story. However, when you get to their part in it, they get angry. This one fact will start to alert you to Lucifer. As you go on with your talk, the person will try to convince you that THEY are the angel, surrounded by devils. In other words, it is everyone else fault. This is the second indication that it is Lucifer. The third will be that they will not face their part in any of it. By that point, you have probably severed the relationship. However, you can look back and make an Asteroid pick.
Often, the people with a prominent Lucifer will be beautiful or talented in the way of Lucifer. I have not seen enough of the Lucifer asteroid to call this a fact but it is a working theory. However, they did not use their talents in the right way. They used them for ego. Hence, they fell, just as did Lucifer.
You are such a nut, B.
Oh boy…
So Lucifer conjuncts my Moon exactly (Leo, 10th house)- which is an exact opposition to my sun.
Lucifer in Leo seems like a terrible placement… What’s the good news?
I know you love stories.
I was not particularly obedient, I always thought I was smarter than my parents and drove them nuts showing it.
I have struggled with “religion” even though it has been an intricate part of my life since birth. My grandmother lecturing me about it doesn’t seem to do much to encourage me either…
Feminism.
I would prefer to fail a class than ask for help.
I’ve dated only a few people, and the majority have treated me poorly: aka victim complex (deja conjunct venus also)
One thing I’ve been known to do is complete disclosure, and making sure everyone knows how upfront and honest and accepting of my faults I am (except pride lol)
I have a Scorpio, Aries moon mentor who has been very, very, very subtly pointing this out to me.
LOL, Mel, Are you a male or female?
On that case, I would say that you have a very hard time bowing your knee to God. Is that true? Tell me your story? Are you my FB friend, Mel?
(for your readers)
I am a lady, yes.
The best way to get me to do something is to tell me NOT to do it. Or get me think it was my idea to being with. I am very attuned to people’s attempts at manipulation.
I may mention also, that for a time I had the nickname “Devil Woman” I am not entirely sure if this has anything to do with this placement though…
Aww No, devil woman would be something else. Lucifer is spiritual pride. You seem like you are describing Uranus oppose Jupiter. Do you have that. What does your Uranus do.Please, include orbs!
It’s not close enough. Jupiter is 8 deg. Leo 25’21” Rx and Uranus is 11 deg. Capricorn 25’44”. Jupiter opposes my Sun and Saturn (and True Node) though.
I know someone with lucifer conjunct mars and he’s a rapist.
Seriously? This does not really go because Lucifer is more of a spiritual pride but I am not doubting you. I bet the reason is something else, though. What does Pluto do? Does it square Saturn?
“Lucifer is a kind of fake piety. The person will usually present a problem where she looks like the victim. However, in actuality, she is victimizing others. If you dare to show her her face, she will get enraged.”
It fits just replace the “she’s” and “her’s” with “he’s” and “his.”
Don’t know his tob so I can’t go into astro reasons.
Thank you, Name. I get my info from doing charts and talking to people. I am so glad when someone confirms it because that is how I learn and grow!
Do you feel that Lucifer vibe in me? :DD
NO, I don’t feel the Lucifer vibe in you. Do you have it prominently?
I have it exactly conjunct Saturn, trine Sun, biquintile Jupiter and Mercury, quincunx Vertex and it has 1-degree opposition to Mars. 😀
I find people with Lucifer conj the sun hit me as very prideful. I feel a dislike for them, to be honest. I had someone on here with that and she could feel that from me. I did have that feeling. I don’t feel it from you, though, Marble lol
Yeah, they may identify with it more. I remember the first times in my childhood when I was defending my beliefs and myself verbally. It even scared me how zealous I turned to be, it was out of my control. Since that, I have kept it tightly under my Saturn’s spell. 😀 I still do have strong pride concerning my beliefs, but I don’t open up about them easily and when I do, I’m ready step back if the situation is going to turn into hurting argument. The aspects are very tight btw, Saturn 0°13′ Pis, Lucifer 0°17′ Pis, Sun 0°21′ Can.
I see, Marble. I guess you learned lol
^ *…Question for Amy.*
I don’t know why I’m accidentally posting replies, when I should post entirely new comment… 😀
I have a Forum. Did you know that, M? I don’t think you can post new comments on here. You have to just post on the given articles.
Oh, I just thought I had replied to previous user’s comment, my mistake… 😀