I think there is a simple ways to figure out yourself( as well as anyone else in whom you are interested) One must have an accurate birth time. If one does not have that, this will not work. It is thethe House of Chiron. People get upset that something as simple as this can help us find birth time. The chart can be simple in certain matters. One matter is one’s House of Pain. If a client does not have pain in the House in which Chiron resides, I venture that they have the wrong birth time.I think Chiron is a very, very powerful planet, by house. Sign is of lesser importance.
I think each person knows his place of pain.If one gets quiet and plumbs one’s depths, one will come up with a sphere of life that just plain hurts. The Chiron wound never leaves. People fight me on this and tell me I am negative but I am true to the myth. I think we take the Chiron pain to death. I hope I am wrong. I seem to be taking mine to death. At any rate, for the newest newbie, he can look at the Chiron glyph and he can see the core wound of any native. Of course, he can see the core wound of himself. Write and tell me what you think.
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You know for the first time I got to say that I am %100 with you on this one. Chiron conjunct Sun 2-3 degrees in the forth. I accept it is what it is and it won’t disappear. I just live with it now and focus on the healingness and pain co-existing. What helps me live with it is to interchange the word wound with tension, as in its a tension spot requiring copius amounts and at times an underlying unending focus of energy to transform what always needs, well, transformation. I do have a joker in the pack though, asteroid Sado in with chiron/sun with does allow me to get off on the pain. BUT, any idleness on my part and I will turn destructive with the aspect. Hence, why I spend my days at home intensely creative as possible. Hope this helps. Love Sandy x
Hi Sandy dear
I was just thinking of this subject– pain. I have Chiron in the 4th. My mothers Aqua Sun with an EXACT combust to her Aqua Mercury, is an exact conjunction to my Chiron. I froze at age 14. I am still frozen. I think there may be a way out–crying. The book Cure by Crying by Stone may be the answer. I am super creative, too. I play the guitar and sing but nothing seems to truly help the core pain.
My Chiron is in the 7th house, within 1 degree of my descendant, and exactly opposite my Uranus (within a few minutes). Does this mean pain in partnerships?
You may be attracted to people with pain and disown your own. The opposition with Uranus may make you afraid of commitment, too, like you panic.
I think I attract people with pain, too. I recently discovered that I am an empath, and it could partly be attributed to this placement. As for commitment, I have been married for nearly 17 years, but I do have times of panic where I don’t think I can stay much longer! I keep these thoughts to my self, though. We have Saturn on our composite descendant, and I feel like my husband and I are handcuffed together.
LOL, what a visual,K. Well, the charts will play out and yours sounds like it is. xx
I feel your pain, and I bleed it with you. Your creative tune spreads wide and reaches the greater world. And still no amount of success seems to erase the depths of what you say. We both gifted so, the answer has fallen short. Left our desire for more. Challenged our peace as we cry for whats sure. We must find the rock unmoved, the one that stands alone in the crowd. Thoughts, answers thinking it has had its day to shine. That day turned to night, dim lit-failed. I cry no answer! It’s not in the answer. Answer no more to it. Live it my soul live it. Love it my soul love it. Fragility, vulnerability, weakness….I love you one and all.
Aww Sandy
I was thinking about this kind of thing like when I reached goals, I thought I would be able to love myself. I graduated from college, then Grad school, got married, had children. Then, I thought I was not happy and could not love myself because I never had a business of my own. Then, I got that and it is doing really well. Now, I am becoming a professional musician, another one of my dreams. Nothing touches that lack of self love. I am kind of at that point of looking at that now, as we speak. I was thinking just these thoughts before you wrote, Sandy dear. I am so glad to have you here and please, keep sharing. Love, Ami
In what sign and house is your Chiron, Sandy?
Buried deep in the forth in aries. I haven’t had a visitor in my home in years. That is outlawed until such a time of my willing. Amy dear I relate to whole sign houses. My chart doesn’t fit me otherwise. That brings my Mercury/Aries into the forth where it so belongs. / I’ve just checked upon your chart. I think we’ll get on tremendously. With my Merc on your Dc and my moon on your Ic and pluto on your Asc, we will lay bare to each a relationship that plumbs deep into the mind and heart and soul of who you were, are, and meant to be.
Wow, sounds lovely, Sandy. I need to get bare 😀
Yes, I think one can find one’s houses by using Chiron. This is what I do. Purists cringe but it does seem to work. Chiron in the 4th is pain in the home and usually the mother, Interesting about YOUR Merc on my DC. I will let you teach me things. Your Moon on my IC. You bring me your heart. Pluto conj the ASC can be strength given to the ASC person. In male/female relationships, it is a weak in the knees feeling.
🙂 you sense my power. And now you know my moon heart is grounded within the deepest part of you alone. And yes Sandy dear much of the pain you describe is, was and will be with the mother. Astrology is so scary accurate that we are left always coming back for more.
Aww I love your power!
“And yes Ami dear” 🙂
My chiron conjuncts my sun sign by two degrees. I grew up with a LOT of pain from my father. I am working on forgiving him for things he did and the words he said but I will never forget. Will these wounds heal, I don’t know. Due to the abuse I didn’t trust men and I still struggle with it….the only man I trust is my boyfriend and I knew about him years ago
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This is seriously the most confusing for me…
Chiron in Gemini 8th house
When I was little I had 3 very close family members-Granny, Uncle Bill and Grandma died within months of each other. 6 months later my parents divorced. We got a small inheritance from my Uncle.
I am also thinking that my Chiron is of a sexual nature.
I have been raped, taken advantage of, groped, harassed, etc, etc many more times than I would like to remember….in fact I am sure I have made myself forget some things.. I fear even going outside because of it. The earliest I can remember something like this happening I was at least in elementary. There must be something about me that is a beacon to creeps. Even when I was a little girl [like 3-4] a man got me to leave with him through the camp site I was staying at when I was not with my family because he had crayons and a coloring book, but someone who knew me grabbed me from him and he ran off. Old pervy men are always staring at me. Or am I just paranoid since I am a Scoprio rising? But I think that would make me even more prone to being hurt like this. I don’t know how to get people to leave me alone. My boyfriend says I just have one of those faces, like Traci Lords; really lusty or something.
And as for Gemini? I guess I need help communicating a bit. I have a hard time communicating my emotions. I also have problems with stuttering and mixing up my words. In 1st and 2nd grade they were going to hold me back because they thought I had some sort of autism but they tested me and I already had past a high school reading level.
Could it be a combo of these things??
I so appreciate your posts and want to give them the time they deserve. I will do them, little by little, so I can study them, my Friend, and thanks for being a part of my website!
I see–an 8th House Chiron. I am sorry about your abuse. I understand as I had it, too!! The 8th House Chiron may want to rise above his primal passions so much that he wishes he was not even plagued by them , so to speak. He wants to be above being a primal person with all that passion, emotional and sexual. Can you relate? I look at Chiron more by house than sign
chiron in leo 22 degrees , first house…. my asc in leo 18 degrees
Did you have bullying, R?