Saturn in hard aspect to Pluto is supposed to show cruelty in the natal chart. Hard aspect would be the conjunction( in this case), the square and the opposition. As with all things in Astrology, degree matters. I wonder why this aspect denotes cruelty. I do know that Saturn makes obsessive what it touches. 
I have seen Saturn conjunct Eros obsessed with sex. I have seen Saturn conjunct Echo obsessed with finding one’s voice. In the same way, Saturn must make Pluto obsessed with expressing POWER. How best to express power than cruelty. I suppose cruelty is absolute power. In any case, please share your experiences and we will discover more about this aspect, together.
Hi Ami…
What do you think about (out of sign 5 orb separating) conjunction?
and what do you think about out of signs aspects in general?
I found that this is a point of depate, plus my brother has this conjunction Saturn in 3 Scorpio + Pluto in 28 Libra.
Welcome Tarek 😀
I would go by orbs more than signs. Orbs can be likened to a roaring fire. One feels the energy and warmth when one is close. One feels it less so when one moves away. That is how I see orbs, Tarek.
I have the semisquare (Saurn/Pluto) at 0 degrees.
Really, T. I don’t do much with the minor aspects but 0 degrees would mean a lot!
Yeah – I feel both planets a lot. According to http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/semisquare-8th-harmonic.php Saturn semisquare Pluto: Striving to resolve a dilemma between duty and single-mindedness (i.e. between doing one’s duty as defined by others, and the ruthless pursuit of one’s own goals); striving towards a disciplined single-mindedness.
Interesting T
Makes sense. The minor aspects are important when close in orb. I need to pay more attention to them! Is this the black dotted line?
I have an exact semi sextile between venus and the moon and I can feel it, too, but it is not as natural or easy as a trine or sextile, I find. Do you, T?
It’s like two dogs barking at each other…………….
I think people with alot of oppositions in their charts, they are blind as bats. They cannot find who they are.
I have an opposition void 😀
I have the pluto/NN opposite moon/sn – I wouldn’t say I was blind as a bat but I do have to ask myself at times – how do I feel about xyz, you know? It’s not unusual for me to go against how I feel. I have the same with sun/mercury oppose Jupiter – I have to ask myself at times – do I want to do this and is it helpful/harmful to me and/or the group, as a whole. It’s not unusual for me to do things for the sake of the whole while putting myself in harm’s way.
Great comment, T!
Aww. 🙁 Spoken as if from a very sad heart.
Heresy, love. *hugs*
Absolute power is: Forgiveness. <3 Jesus.
God is absolute power, and God is the antithesis of cruel.
(But I know you know these things.)
And I believe that if:
…then that power might turn to cruelty, or result in cruelty as a means to its end, only because of the entry of Satan into the world.
God made good things; Satan twists them.
(Then God redeemed them again. <3 )
(or *redeems )
Aww, Ferry, the human walk is so hard. Isn’t it, with our egos?
I think so. *nods*
I have this conjunction in 3 degrees in my 4th house. Oh my!:(
Welcome Zeal 😀
Tell me about it.