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Dejanira–The Victim

251987_3489226959893_1138668291_nIf Astrology cannot be practical, why bother with it? That is what I think, anyway. I have written many articles on Dejanira. I understood her, intellectually, but not emotionally. You may say that it is funny how that could be. Well, one cannot understand things emotionally until one’s heart opens to them. I have Dejanira conjunct the Child Asteroid. This shows I would be victimized as a child. The single worst placement of any asteroid is Moon conjunct Dejanira. This, always, shows sexual abuse . It fragments the person. I have had one person tell me she was not sexually abused. I have to wonder if she blocked it, as every other person with Dejanira conjunct the Moon was. If there was not sexual abuse, there was severe emotional abuse.

Dejanira conjuct the Moon severely fragments the personity. Dejanira conjunct the North Node makes one’s life a personal search to understand Dejanira.This usually involves personal abuse. Then, the person may be an advocate for others. Dejanira conjunct the ASC will call abuse to one. This will be a subconscious thing, as no one calls abuse to themselves, consciously.

At any rate, I can talk about Dejanira in an intellectual way but she hit me in an emotional way, today. It was because of an e mail one from of my most beloved clients. I am so proud of her. She is an English Professor. I take great pride in telling people this.

I sent her some of my writing. She said that it went so far and then I was afraid of exposing myself. That was exactly it. That was why it had a hole in it. That got me thinking of the fear of exposing my shame. That is what we fear exposing. Then, I started thinking about songs for Asteroids. I found the perfect one for Dejanira. Write on my Comment Form if you can relate.

50 thoughts on “Dejanira–The Victim

  1. amiannBiblea

    Amy winehouse had a magical, syrupy and very sexy voice that nobody ever had. Not even Adele could bring out that charisma. Since you’re the guru of asteroids, what do you think conjuncted or aspected her sun/mercury? When she sang, she sang with her whole being . It was the ultimate, but there is a personality to her voice. I thought it was Pluto but it wasn’t. Is it something like Eros or Sappho?

    Btw i saw you deleted two previous posts. They were legitimate and deserved to stay here.

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      YES, well said, B! I agree so much. I love to listen to Amy and watch her. To me, if a person could communicate their soul like that, how could they destroy themselves? Asteroids, I don’t know. Amy was one in a million in being unique. Maybe Quoaar or an Unaspected planet. It goes beyond Eros or Sappho but she may have had those, too.

        1. amiannamiann Post author

          Totally horsey. I love the horse look! What are your favorite songs from her? I love two, in particular. Tears Dry On Their Own and Love is Blind. The latter makes me cry.

          1. amiannbiblea

            Aww I can reply now. Well my fave songs are this one and the rehab one. Maybe even Valery. Why? cuz theyre overplayed. the “I heard Love is Blind” has nice lyrics but the tune seems a bit out of sorts, what do you think, A?

          2. amiannamiann Post author

            Interesting picks, B. I don’t like Rehab and Valery too much. I like her really primal and these don’t seem to be her really primal ones to me. I think one of her most primal ones is Wake Up Alone. Love is Blind is strange, in a way. I think I like it because of that. She cheats and she is trying to tell him not to worry about it which is silly but then she has such a heart for him, too. I guess I like when I heard her heart for him.

          3. amiannamiann Post author

            I had a question for you B. You said you felt Merc sq Neptune in Amy. Could you please explain your reasoning? How do you see the trine vs the square? Why, do you see her having the square? Thanks so much!

          4. amiannamiann Post author

            WOW Great analysis, B. You are so gifted in Astrology! I hear what you are saying. There is some dissonance in her that is very pleasing.I will look at the rest of her chart later. Thanks for putting it up. Mercury sq Neptune is a sign for mental illness, too, as is Mercury square Uranus. Do you agree?

          5. amiannbiblea

            Regarding mental illness, that is a broad concept. Most people are mentally ill trying to fit into the norm . I think a square or inconjunct is a sign of frustration, and when it is dealt to mercury, a delicate planet, it can make the mind go off kilter, but I won’t go so far as to say it is mental illness. It’s more like a mind that can go sideways as far as the outer planet allows. For instance, the merc sq Neptune can enter into deep trances of depression or dystopian type settings. A merc sq Uranus can enter into frenzied uncontrolled bouts of otherworldly thoughts. Mental illness is a spiritual disease. You cant find it in the chart.

          6. amiannamiann Post author

            B, with Astrology, you are not a bits and pieces person. You have the breadth and depth of Astrology that few have.. However, you seem to just be getting interested in asteroids. Each person has a few asteroids which are key to himself.

          7. amiannamiann Post author

            Back to Amy for a bit. I wonder what her Child and Deja asteroid do? If you feel like looking, that would be great. If not, no problem. I bet Amy has something profound conj her Child Asteroid.I will make that asteroid pick.

          8. amiannamiann Post author

            Yes, forget putting up their charts unless you have a personal interest. It is a pain to put up charts, so don’t put this one up for me, only if you want to discuss it. I have an interesting aside about Virgo and Libra Venus. They do not get Gemini Venus’ humor. I have had so many experiences with my Virgo venus friend who finds nothing funny that I do. My Libra Venus son is a bit better but not too much.

          9. amiannamiann Post author

            I love the Talent shows. I watch them on the computer, all the time. He looks beautiful and harmonious like a Libra. I am not crazy about his voice. It is nice but does not give me chills or touch me deeply, so to speak. I will show you who I love. I love a lot of them but this song made my cry by this contestant who did not win, btw. She was second. I thought she should have won.

          10. amiannamiann Post author

            Well, when I watched it again, I see what you are saying. I think I saw a different version where she did. The whole thing with singing is that you have to run naked or it is boring. If you can’t run naked, don’t sing.That is why singing can heal Echo because Echo MUST emote true emotion and in doing so finds it imo

      1. amiannamiann Post author

        Yes, Amy is wonderful with the grunge.Have you heard Adele’s “Chasing Pavements?” That one is magical to me. Back to Amy, she has to have some asteroid that draws one to her because she is so sexy and does not have classic good looks. I wonder if it is Apollo or Adonis. If you feel like looking, you could check these or Eros and Sappho. If not, that is fine and thanks for looking up Quoar! To me, the way to learn asteroids is to find one which is a perfect fit for the person. Then, one can use this asteroid in other charts and see how it plays out. After a few times of this, one has a sense of that asteroid and can feel it in people. There is very little practical info out there about Asteroids imo

  2. amiannBiblea

    Forgive me for sayin this but when she sings, she sings like a man. Almost like a whole other entity took over her voice. In my paucity of figures to pull i would say Lucifer before his fall — her voice sounds like a charismatic man halfway into hell but not yet there.

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      Well, she was pulled into the dark side. That was clear with her addictions and her eventual fall. I don’t get a male feeling about her. I do with some female singers but not her

      I think she was very primal and that was her statement. She was not afraid to show her primal side. Most people are afraid of their primal side. She showed us our own primal side by her ability to touch hers. I think that was her genius.

      1. amiannBiblea

        She had more charisma than three virgo guys put together. Her voice is manly but she is feminine… She is primal for a virgo and her moon gave her that confidence not found in withering virgo

        1. amiannamiann Post author

          What else did her Moon do? A 29 degree is a frozen degree, so not something easy and flowing. What do you think, B?

          Also, you should see what conjuncts your Child Asteroid. I have a list with all the numbers, if you would like to see that.

  3. amiannamiann Post author

    I was thinking of something B. Paul McCartney has Quoar conj his Merc. Quoar is pure, out of the box genius. I feel that in Amy. I think that is what may have made her unique. Einstein had it conj his ASC. It is a very powerful asteroid when it touches personal places in the chart. Mohammud Ali had it conjunct Mars.

    Amy had to have some sort of prominent Eros or Sappho, I would think, too. If not, there may have been another similar asteroid giving her that sultriness.

  4. amiannsaniel

    More specifically, my husband was born with virgo sun conjunct virgo deja, & my father has the same conjunction in earlier degrees of virgo.

  5. amiannamiann Post author


    Just looking at Amy’s chart. She is an almost water void. How interesting when she seems so watery. What do you make of this. She has a Saturn Singelton in water. What do you make of this?

  6. amiannamiann Post author

    Wow she has the Sun/Merc combust. I think this one of the hardest things one can have. I think it is a factor in mental problems because the person cannot detach from themselves.

    Moon conj Neptune.
    This may be the super emotional feeling about her.

    She is an introvert–all lower half planets except for the two 7th House ones.

    Saturn conj Pluto–4 degrees. My theory is that you are obsessed with what conjuncts saturn so she may have been obsessed with her primal self.

    Her sexiness is venus conj Mars in Leo– no less—the star.

    Anyway, what do you think of these, B?

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      Aww Thank you, Saniel. I got such lovely comments tonight and to be honest, I really needed them! I don’t really understand your question. Please, ask me again and I will try to answer.

    1. amiannamiann Post author

      To me, Sun conj deja would not be good. I call them as I see them. The Sun is one’s ego, one’s basic identity. You want a strong, confident one, ideally. Deja makes one a victim. It is not one’s fault. The chart is what it is, good and bad. Deja feels he is powerless. He feels he can’t make moves in his own behalf. He is like a dog who has been hit too many times and cowers in the corner. This is too strong of an example but still the same feel, in my opinion. Does that fit? xx

  7. amiannivy kate

    Hi, amianne. 🙂 I was wondering, what it means when dejanira aspects a lot of personal planets? It opposes my ascendant and moon and squares my mars, saturn, mercury, and sun.

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